Thanks Ange. I know you're right. I think when he gets to this point, as much as I want to leave him alone, I panic as I feel I'm losing him. But now that I can see how badly off he is, I think I can leave him alone now. I posted on another topic, that I've been in communication with is pdoc and he suggested bi-polar, which I know you'e suggested before. I really didn't think he had it until now. Even just this moment, he woke up shivering uncontrollably, and he does that often. And I quickly did research on it, and found it could be because of General Anxiety disorder, panic attack or bi-polar, and that meds would all help. So he's probably having it cause he went off the meds, or cut them in half at least. I helped him feel better, got him a blanket, started a fire for him. Maybe he'll be willing to listen to me now a bit more because I helped him. Who knows. Perhaps I can get him to go see the pdoc now. Fingers crossed. If not, I will l just him be.