Thanks Erin. As always ... spot on. I know this to be true ... he's told me as such previously. Thanks for the reminder Ange did prepare me for the fact that he may do this, and that is perhaps is inevitable if it does happen. I just read another one of your posts re boundaries ... I think that I'm almost ready to set some, knowing that if it isn't what he wants, or doesn't 'keep them', then this is what I need. I don't know how you managed (and still do) for such a long time ... I guess that we are all good, caring people with enormous strength in personality!! Night Erin x